Talk:And the Children Shall Lead (episode)

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Contents 1 Episode talk page 1.1 Maintenance links 2 Hadley and Chekov 3 More nits... 4 Pat Robertson note

I'm sure I'm probably the only one who cares about this, but . . .

The use of the term "Away Team" did not appear during the original series as far as I know; "Landing Party" was the accepted reference. TNG was okay, but I don't like to see references from it creeping backward into TOS.

(this is just a very minor nitpick - you guys are doing an absolutely awesome job on the whole) OS-Trek 14:30, 1 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote of confidence. If you've been around as long as I have (since the first season NBC repeats in the summer of '67) you've seen the shows many times, and you've seen just about everything there is to see. - Adambomb1701 17:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hadley and Chekov

I moved the following out of the article:

* In some stock footage shots of the bridge Lt. Hadley is sitting at Chekov's station, creating continuity errors.

Chekov had been at the station for most of the episode, but Hadley relieved him when the children ordered him to apprehend Kirk. Hadley continued at the station since Kirk and Spock had knocked out Chekov in the ensuing fight. Egan Loo 20:28, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More nits...

I removed:

• Professor Starnes mentions a "Professor Wilkins" in one of his dictations. Yet, there are no graves marked "Wilkins".

• Kirk appears to "forget" two security men on Triacus. The landing party returns aboard, leaving two guards on the planet. At the end, Kirk sets course for a starbase, seemingly forgetting the two men.

These are nits, I can't see any reason to justify their inclusion in the background information. --Alan del Beccio 00:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I restored the second one, which I wouldn't call a "nit" - actually kind of interesting. SimpsonDG 23:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Was it ever specifically stated that they were not beamed up, or is this speculation? The word "seemingly" would indicate 'yes, it is speculation.' If that is the case, then it is a nit. Just because no one stated 'hey beam up the red shirts' or 'hey lets not go back and get those red shirts' doesn't mean that they were "forgot", especially if the base was en route, or other unseen/unheard circumstance could indicate otherwise. --Alan del Beccio 20:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone restored the first one as well. - Adambomb1701 18:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the second alleged "nit", it seems to me that if people watching the episode who aren't major Star Trek buffs notice the plot hole/loose end, and say aloud "Wait, what about the guys they left on the planet?", it's hardly a "nit" and certainly deserves inclusion. This isn't speculation, it's a gaffe in the writing, and one that absolutely needs to be included. 69.112.253.157 01:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Er, as I stated already: Was it ever specifically stated that they were not beamed up, or is this speculation? The word "seemingly" would indicate 'yes, it is speculation.' If that is the case, then it is a nit. Just because no one stated 'hey beam up the red shirts' or 'hey lets not go back and get those red shirts' doesn't mean that they were "forgot", especially if the base was en route, or other unseen/unheard circumstance could indicate otherwise. --Alan 01:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

It is also very possible that (off camera) a message was sent to a closer starship where Kirk alerted the ship that due to a problem onboard his ship two security men were stranded on a planet and could they please go and pick these men up. There are many ways to explain what happened at the end of that episode (although, at the young age of 13 when I saw that episode for the first time, I admit that was the very first thing I noticed!) -FC 03:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pat Robertson note

For years this episode was never seen in syndication in Dallas, Texas. The station that aired the series was KXTX-TV, owned by Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN). Apparently someone (perhaps Robertson) at CBN felt the "friendly angel" was something that shouldn't be seen on a Christian television station -- or that the kids' circling, chanting routine looked too much like witchcraft.

I am removing this note. It has been in the article without citation for 7 months, it can go back when it has a citation. --OuroborosCobra ^talk 11:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)