Talk:Krios Prime

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[edit] Needs attention

Krios - Someone with more information than me on this particular subject has to work on this article regarding issues like "is the klingon krios the same as the one seen in "The Perfect Mate" or krios prime mentioned in "Precious Cargo"? Furthermore the article needs (a) picture(s). --BlueMars 12:19, Jan 11, 2005 (CET)

The two TNG Krioses are hard to reconcile. Perhaps we should just have the two Krioses in the same article, with a similar note as the current one. IIRC, the ENT Kriosian monarch had the same spots as the "The Perfect Mate" Kriosian girl, so those are the same. So, have Krios Prime redirect to Krios, and have Krios have all info, with a note that the two TNG references could be different planets. -- Harry 19:06, 17 Jan 2005 (CET)

I also have my doubts about Ross having ever met Gorkon, who died in 2293 ... – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.131.113.238 (talk).

Ross actually met Gowron at Khitomer-Rebelstrike2005 14:44, 9 Feb 2005 (CET)

When Trip promises to send a message back to the sovereign monarchy and asks Khaitaana the name of her planet. "Krios..?", she emphasizes "Krios Prime" as though to distinguish it from a planet with the same name. --Vivec 02:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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It is theorized that the Klingon "Krios" shown in "The Mind's Eye" is not the same as the "Krios Prime" we see in "Perfect Mate" and which is referred to in "Precious Cargo", due to the planet's changing appearance from blue to green and the total lack of any reference to the Klingons in the latter two episodes. However, as no information from those episodes suggests this theory, we assume it is the same planet.

Theorized by who? --Alan 00:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No Evidence that Krios = Krios

Other than their name there is nothing in Star Trek canon presented on this site or any other site to indicate that Krios of Klingon rule is the same as Krios of Kriosian rule. Different images for the planets are used and it would be illogical to assume a centuries long war wasn't interrupted when the Klingons conquered them. If anything the Klingon assault on the Kriosian planet would have resulted in great bloody shed and certainly have resulted in a reallocation of resources to defend from the Klingon invaders. Other than name, I ask, what supports these to planets being the same?

This would be akin to saying Fayetteville was involved in the civil war. Well, which one? (Fayetteville, Arkansas; Fayetteville, Georgia; Fayetteville, Illinois; Fayetteville, Indiana; Fayetteville, New York; Fayetteville, North Carolina; Fayetteville, Ohio; Fayetteville, Pennsylvania; Fayetteville, Tennessee; Fayetteville, Texas; Fayetteville, West Virginia)

The direct on screen evidence is clear. Two different planet colors. The simplest explanation? Two different planets.216.175.116.249 08:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not immediately sure about this one.......one would think that the different images for the planet would clinch it, but it was never mentioned. Of course, would the characters need to mention it? (Wow! This Fayetteville is different than the one in Ohio!) I'm not sure where I stand yet. I've put up a pna to encourage discussion.--31dot 12:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Check out Vivec's comment above: "When Trip promises to send a message back to the sovereign monarchy and asks Khaitaana the name of her planet. "Krios..?", she emphasizes "Krios Prime" as though to distinguish it from a planet with the same name." This seems persuasive. I expect that the only reason this was scripted is that writers were already aware of the realworld potential for confusion. It looks to me like they went ahead and canonized the need for clarifying "which of 2 Krioses are you talking about". --TribbleFurSuit 17:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Further, though I don't know if it is a viable source, it is valuable in this discussion. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/places/article/69627.html 216.175.116.249 17:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)