Talk:Post-atomic horror

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You know this article tries to explain away the post atomic horror by saying it only effected the Eastern Coalition. But that does not jive with "Up The Long Ladder" which talks about the chaos of the early 21st century. In the whole scene Data pretty much makes out the early 21st century as a chaotic time. Enough that the Mariposa had to leave Earth to find a better life. --TOSrules 03:25, Dec 24, 2004 (CET)

No, it doesn't try to "explain away" the event. I wrote (literally moments ago!) that it is possible that the ECON was the primary power affected, not the only one. Plus, that isn't actually part of the article, but background notes marking a dichotomy between established facts in various series.

In regards to the scene you mention (I assume this is the conference lounge scene before contact with the colony), Data simply states that Earth was still recovering from the war. Picard says there was "chaos", but does not elaborate. -- Michael Warren | Talk 03:42, Dec 24, 2004 (CET)

I would just like to point out that regardless, ENT is in the clear, since ENT takes place approx. sixty years after these events. In its pilot, it is mentioned that it took Earth several decades to eliminate war and poverty. User:quanta Jan 5, 2005

I would have to agree, the speculative note at the bottom is unnecessary and leading considering what we know. Tyrant 18:40, 21 Jan 2005 (CET)Tyrant

"However, as Q's courtroom seemed to be heavily influenced by Asian culture"

As an East Asian Star Trek fan, I disagree with this remark. The people in the photo look Mongolian (or some other nomadic tribe from the Central Asian steppes) rather than East Asian (China, Japan, Korea etc). Mongolian (and other steppe) cultures of the nomads is very different from the culture of the civilised areas of East Asia (as much difference as there is between Viking raiders and civilised Byzantine Greeks in Europe) and is indeed rather barbaric and cruel. - cyl

[edit] The Enterprise issue..

Wouldn't it be fair to say that "Demons" tied the different versions of the 'Post-atomic horror' together rather well? Especially the bit about Colonel Green really sell the idea that there was a wide spread collapse of human society immediately following the war, and that it did effect the 'western' world. It's also a nice tie in bewteen TOS, TNG, and ENT, and even DS9 with all their talk about eugenics and ethics--monkey²:twice the monkey 18:03, 10 August 2006 (UTC)