Talk:Robert April

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Contents 1 Not Captain? 2 Fan created history 3 First command? 4 Roddenberry as April 5 Redirects

[edit] Not Captain?

The Wikipedia article on April says he was never Captain, and Gene himself asked "STTAS" not be considered canon... --trekphiler, 21/11/05

Memory Alpha considers TAS canon, period. Therefore Robert April is indeed a captain. -- Miranda Jackson ^(Talk) 21:55, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)

If I may make a correction, Memory Alpha may not have the authority to say something is or isn't canon. Canon is chosen by those who choose the creative direction of the Star Trek franchise. the policy you quote addresses how TAS is a valid resource on Memory Alpha.

Memory Alpha is collecting data about all Star Trek released in episode or movie form (which TAS was) as our valid resources

TAS is still probably not considered canon, and could be noted as such though, if the appropriate quote or interview by Gene Roddenberry or another producer could be cited.

Trekphiler, I've noticed a few times that you've commented, have you received a welcome message yet? Maybe you'd have a better understanding of our parameters if you read Memory Alpha:Policies and guidelines and Memory Alpha:Introduction -- then you would understand better why certain topics you address exist in their current state on this site. -- Captain Mike K. Bartel^talk 22:05, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)

My apologies. It did say "canon" in the bit I quoted; I grabbed that, replied, and ran onto something else without looking deeper. :-) -- Miranda Jackson ^(Talk) 23:14, 21 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Paramount considers TAS to be apocryphal, and because Captain April hasn't been cast in the new Star Trek film but Captain Pike was it seems likely that April ISN'T the first captain of the enterprise. --12.210.209.18 03:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the studio is now (apparently) leaning towards the animated series being part of established Star Trek canon. See the summary of Star Trek: The Animated Series for more. --From Andoria with Love 14:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fan created history

Speaking about informations from "official" comics or novels is an interesting background information. But dealing with fan stories is stupid. In that case, we'll have many fanfics on the others articles. This section here doesn't deal with a possible theory but is completly fanfiction. I think it should be removed. - Philoust123 18:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Here's the removed info:

Fan created history: Since not much of April's history is known, one fan created background included April assuming command of the NCC-1701 under the blessing of his mentor, Jonathan Archer. He then leads the Enetrprise into the Battle of Donatu V against the Klingons, and searches immediately for Kodos the Executioner following the Food Crisis. While in pursuit of Kodos, April takes back a young witness named Jimmy Kirk, who is fascinated by the titanic starship.

I agree that a "fan created history" should not be included. If it is a well-known detail from "fandom" (as determined by popular fandom magazines) then, maybe, something could be mentioned in the background information. However the information seems to have been made up by the user.--Tim Thomason 18:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First command?

Does "The Counter-Clock Incident" actually state that Enterprise was April's first command? I've never seen that assertion anywhere but on Memory Alpha. --TimPendragon 19:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Anybody have an answer for this? He was the first Captain of the Enterprise, but that doesn't mean he never commanded a ship before her. --12.22.249.3 21:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

No, "The Counter-Clock Incident" makes no such statement. However, from a certain (particularly labored) point of view, he was very young when he captained the Enterprise during the episode. Perhaps what the original archivist was trying to say was that at his youngest age in this episode — oh, hell, that just plain doesn't make any sense! Removing reference in article. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 22:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roddenberry as April

The Star Trek Encyclopedia uses a photo of Gene Roddenberry in an early Pilots-era Star Trek uniform to illustrate its entry on April. Would it be appropriate to mention this here, in the Background or Apocrypha section? It's just a minor piece of trivia, but it might be worth saying. I wouldn't want to add it until I knew how others felt about mentioning it. - Bridge 20:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I see no problem with mentioning it in an appropriate section. Then again, I'm not an Admin. . . Sir Rhosis 09:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

Should there be redirects of Robert M. April and Robert T. April without periods?--UESPA 04:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

They would be fine, as non-canon redirects. :-) – Cleanse 04:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

As long as they're done properly. Which the first cracks... were not. Where are the two differing middle initials from? -- Sulfur 05:48, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

"M" is used in the original pitch, "Star Trek Is," as seen in a PDF scan available at Ex Astris Scientia [1]. "T" is given in Stephen Whitfield's "The Making of Star Trek," the Star Trek Encyclopedia and on StarTrek.com. - Bridge 08:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)